Former White Home press secretary Stephanie Grisham has recalled the second when then-President Donald Trump stared her down within the Oval Workplace and informed her — following author E. Jean Carroll’s accusation that Trump raped her within the Nineteen Nineties — that “All you do is deny in these conditions, Stephanie. You simply deny every part on a regular basis, proper?”
“I keep in mind particularly feeling like that was a take a look at for me as a result of he stared me down when he requested me that,” Grisham informed MSNBC’s Alex Witt on Sunday.
Trump “knew, after all, I used to be very near Melania [Trump] on the time,” added Grisham, who additionally served as chief of employees and press secretary to the primary woman in the course of the White Home years. She has since grow to be a vocal critic of her former boss.
Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 Republican president nomination, was ordered final 12 months to pay Carroll $5 million after a jury discovered him responsible for sexual abuse and defamation. On Friday, a second jury ordered him to pay Carroll $83.3 million for defamatory feedback he made in regards to the author when he was president.
Grisham stated that Trump’s assaults on Carroll had been straight “out of his playbook” of “making an attempt to undermine” anybody who goes in opposition to him.
Witt requested if Melania Trump was the previous president’s “target market in all of this” together with his denials and assaults on Carroll.
“I feel so. It’s my understanding that she has been actually pressuring him to go on the market and defend himself on this specific case,” she replied. “So I feel completely that he’s in all probability making an attempt to defend himself along with her.”
Grisham added, “However he’s operating for president, so he’s eager to make it possible for he’s utilizing this to his benefit, … fundraising off of it and whining about how the system is so stacked in opposition to him.”
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